Listener and friend Jay joins us again, helping us launch our new rotating TDZ format (Brett's pain point -> Andrew's pain point -> listener pain point).   

It begins as a calm and constructive look at how to "get out of your own way,"  shame, The Six Pillars of Self-Esteem, and countering negative self-talk (like in the previous episode). 

 Then about half way through we discover some new elements of Jay's story, and it transforms into a fiery conversation about failed relationships, how to know when they've failed, when to get out, and how to move on.  

MUSIC:

"Going Down the Road Feelin' Bad -> Cold Rain and Snow" The Grateful Dead           

"Get the Hell" Supersuckers           

"The Lonely Bull" Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass

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